Curse

Navaros · Jun 28, 2005, 05:06 PM // 17:06

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Originally Posted by Van the Warrior

but ya this economy is pissing me off and i wish we had a platinum/gold sweep i can care less if i lose all my cash boo hoo but atleast it would be a fresh start in the economy

resetting the economy would not do anything to address the core issue of why things have gotten like this in the first place. hence all resetting it would do would change things for 1 or 2 weeks at max, and then it would go right back to how it is now

best solution is for merchants to sell all items. obviously some priced a lot more expensively than others.

or they can increase drop rates by about 100 billion fold. and make it so henchmen never get drops

Van the Warrior · Jun 28, 2005, 05:08 PM // 17:08

or make it so botting doesnt work and people with 1000plat accounts have their accounts looked at to see where the money goes...and how much of it goes to said location.......................................... ...../ban

Navaros · Jun 28, 2005, 05:13 PM // 17:13

except even with that, it doesn't do much good

because if botters can make more money with botting before being banned than what they have to shell out for the price of a new game, then they will keep botting forever. hence banning them has no effect on getting them to stop botting

Talesin Darkbriar · Jun 28, 2005, 05:31 PM // 17:31

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Originally Posted by Van the Warrior

today i was in lions arch spamming WTB Gold Sword With Max Dmg Mods...

Well, that makes you an instant candidate for my ignore list, but lets read on shall we? People like you are exactly why I keep TRADE turned off.

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Originally Posted by Van the Warrior

i go take a look she has some good swords 2 of which were permanent +15 dmg spatha/longswords with the -5 regen i go to offer 100 plat + some of my gold axes and some gold bows with perfect mods sundering/enchant the bit.

Curses! she out-733ted you! Well, capitalism at its finest, you'll attempt to buy her crap cheap so you can rape someone else with it...all well and good.

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Originally Posted by Van the Warrior

the person goes nah no way someone offered me 500 plat each for those 2 swords but i cant sell them because i have no room for items all my characters have 100 plat and my vault has 1000 plat (putting her/him/it @ 1.4 million + godly items that it demanded 500+ plat for each)

Don't you HATE when a sucker turns out to not be a sucker?

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Originally Posted by Van the Warrior

so i go to the person how is EBAY treating you?

ALERT! phat lewts denied!

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Originally Posted by Van the Warrior

...which was complete bs because this person Princess Pain is a gold dealer for one of the prominent websites along with being an item dealer i think each sword was about 40-50 bucks dont quote me but im sure if you visit a prominent site you will find them there just look for godly spathas/longs/forked and yes the Crystaline and also THE Max gold fell with +15 while above 50 with 30 pommel and 10-10 hilt.

SO to summarize, she had better wares and wouldn't give them to you at the price you demanded, therefore, she's a botter, scammer, exploiter and loot *****?

Hardly, young podling - you have much to learn.

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Originally Posted by Van the Warrior

but ya this economy is pissing me off and i wish we had a platinum/gold sweep i can care less if i lose all my cash boo hoo but atleast it would be a fresh start in the economy it sucks so bad with noobs thinking they can get 100+ plat for just a stupid 30 fortitude upgrade when there are other idiots selling them for 25-60+ plat alone it just goes to show people are greedy and idiots i hate the economy so much but i still like the game

Now you throw insult on injury. You don't care about a platinum/gold sweep? ROFLMAO - Fine, give me your sword for FREE then.
Uh huh...right.

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Originally Posted by Van the Warrior

later after my argument with Princess Pain some other guy was selling a max gold gladius with +14 while above 15% and +25 foritude + icy hilt the guy wanted an offer so i put 100 plat on it and he instantly jumps on it the greed that these people have is so immense and disgusting

Thus, you join the legion of people who beleive if they don't get what they want whenever they want it, the game is hosed, screwed, unbalanced, ruined, etc. etc.

There are words to describe you, but I'll save that for the others to do.

Van the Warrior · Jun 28, 2005, 06:39 PM // 18:39

lol wow dude mean much but its cool wouldnt want to talk to you regardless anyway the ass holes will always show themselves first

Ensign · Jun 28, 2005, 07:59 PM // 19:59

There are some rather important items that aren't available from the collectors - 15% while health above swords and axes, and 20/20 healing staves for starters. I'd like to get myself that collector Longbow, but hell if I know how I'm going to pharm the shells for it.

The real pain is the upgrades. While some of the good ones are pretty common, there are some key upgrades (+5 strings, 20% enchanting parts) that are virtually impossible to find. There aren't exactly viable alternatives to those, either.

Still, looking pretty good all things considered. With the rune trader, there are only a couple things left that need to be cleaned up before grinding gold will truly be a luxury.

Peace,
-CxE

Porkchop Sandwhiches · Jun 28, 2005, 08:08 PM // 20:08

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Originally Posted by Sovetskeey

Amen. I don't use collectors at all but I just buy the cheap stuff off of people. I paid 2k for my Chaos Axe and 1k for the weapon upgrades. I'm happy with it, I enjoy playing the game and I'm not going to sit there and spend hours on end farming just so I can feign wealth. I get no satisfaction from becoming rich in a game.

Chaos Axes drop like crazy in Fissure of Woe. Seriously. I sold three of them yesterday for 300 gold each because I needed the inventory space and I can't say I felt like trying to drain money out of someone who has never been to FoW before.

Collector items actually really rock. I just wish the collector would actually show all the stats on an item. Like, theres a collector (in the desert I think?) who gives a max damage long bow with +10% damage with health above 50%. People try to sell bows like that for a decent amount.

Eclectic · Jun 28, 2005, 08:18 PM // 20:18

TD, You just made my ignore list and I never even met you. What an ego you must have, and totally unjustified from my reckoning. I've seen several like you reading these forums. People like you make me keep my local chat off in game, play with henchmen, and use the items that drop for myself. Oddly I still have gold max damage weapons and other items and runes, and didn't pay people like you a cent.

But you're much more elite than anyone else, in your own mind. Find some humility or just be one of the trash talking, chest thumping junior high school playground types that abound.

edited to better reflect the target of my disdain

Andy_M · Jun 28, 2005, 08:18 PM // 20:18

Hmmm, I tend to have 5k on me max, maybe I better start farming - no wait ! I'll just give up work, that'll give me loads of time to get money and monitor the markets...

Van the Warrior · Jun 28, 2005, 08:52 PM // 20:52

i know of the brute sowrd i think its outside dunes of despair its +15% while enchanted and well that ascalon bow that is at the mineral springs like before u fight the infusion monster thing its +15% while above 50% those arent bad to use i know i've used the brute sword and its pretty good

Evan The Cursed · Jun 28, 2005, 09:13 PM // 21:13

Isn't naming names against the board rules?

Kali Ma · Jun 28, 2005, 10:01 PM // 22:01

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There are words to describe you, but I'll save that for the others to do.

wow... derision, condescension, malice and vitriol... all in one post. There are words to describe you too.

And frankly, that's like the third or so harsh reply I've read where you totally go off on the poster. However accurate or eloquent you're points may be, there's no need for such mean spirited responses. Everyone has a right to express their opinion without getting flamed for it. I'm surprised that the moderators just let this stuff go without doing anything at all. Guess the following is just lip service around here...

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No Flaming
This one is pretty straightforward. We encourage discussion and healthy debate, and personal attacks are not warranted in either. If you cannot be respectful to others, then don't be surprised if those in charge are not respectful of your continued privelege to post.

sino-soviet · Jun 28, 2005, 10:02 PM // 22:02

As I said many times before, with an upgrade trader, in theory, the economy will be perfect. However, people who complain about the economy are seldom complaining about upgrades. Ironically, they whine about the prices of GOLD weapons with high damage mods. Only when people can stop being so superficial and take a stand, saying " I will use this appalling and disgusting looking collector's item because it is every bit as good as a gold one" can the economy be sufficient. Honestly, if you are not able to get the gold, you can fallback on collectors items. It is nothing but sheer vanity which is currently driving the economy. I agree with the topic creator that people are too greedy, but the ones who are truly being greedy are the buyers even moreso than the sellers.

Van the Warrior · Jun 28, 2005, 10:03 PM // 22:03

vitriol....wow that is the first time i have EVER seen that word used /tiphat
lol i have NEVER found a use for that word but nice../nice

Talesin Darkbriar · Jun 28, 2005, 10:55 PM // 22:55

Just to make sure we all understand Van: (and supporters)

You were 'spamming" the city zone you were in trying to sell your uberleet weapons.
A competitior began offering MORE uberleet equipment for sale.
You attempted to buy it off her so you could hold the monopoly on today's leet-market.
She said no thanks.
So you pitch a fit, accuse her of underhanded practices, and of course the game is totally hosed and unbalanced because she refused your lousy offer and made you mad?

Yes, PLEASE add me to your ignore list! I'll pay you to do it. ROFLMAO.

Your pal,
Tal

EF2NYD · Jun 29, 2005, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Actually, he was spamming WTB messages. There's a difference between WTB and WTS...